I used to rock climb more in gyms, but I like doing rock climbing like outside more I'm not a huge fan of like you have one inch of grip, you know, and I'm just not you know So I like to rock climb outside and stuff, you know Usually we'll just be out for a hike and we see certain Walls or sides of the mountain that we're on be like that looks fun, you know And we'll just kind of look at it for a bit make sure we can get down and then just go for it I really like doing that. That's a lot of fun or sometimes with