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Oh yeah? Uh, so what did the experiment reveal?
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Critical thinking is essential in challenging authority and evaluating ethical implications, potentially enabling individuals to actually resist blindly obeying commands, thus impacting the ability to navigate the Milgram experiment successfully. Don't you get that?
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So in order to successfully pass the Milgram experiment and not fall for authority, blind obedience to authority, you have to have critical thinking because that's what's crucial for individuals, to question authority and make ethical decisions. So I think it's you who cannot critically think, not me.
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80% of physicists, accountants, engineers, whatever job they may have outside of their normal activities placed into that experiment, 80% of them will succumb to authority.
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I don't want to get too in between this back and forth, but wouldn't a potential consequence lead to a lack of critical thinking on the part of the subject? Because it's not always going to be the case that authority figures have your best interest in mind. And when you constantly allow them to make decisions and judgments for you that are contradictory to your own values and, you know, whatever, whatever, that can lead to a lack of critical thinking.
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In the experiment, participants who engage in critical thinking would question the ethicality of administering potentially harmful shocks considering the consequences and moral implications, potentially leading them to resist obeying authority figures and act according to their own ethical judgments. Thus, critical thinking plays a crucial role in navigating ethical dilemmas like those presented in the Milgram experiment by prompting individuals to assess the moral implications of their actions. Thank you.
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I'd like to point out that it says therefore, which the therefore statement isn't exclusively attributing the resistance to blind obedience solely to critical thinking, but rather suggests a correlation between critical thinking and ethical considerations. So the therefore in my statement implies a relationship between the ability to critically assess the situation, including ethical implications, and the likelihood of resisting blind obedience. It doesn't discount ethics.
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It doesn't discount ethics, but it suggests that critical thinking plays a role in individuals' ability to question authority and make decisions aligned with their ethical beliefs, as demonstrated by the 20% who resisted blindly following instructions in the Milgram experiment.
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You've already acknowledged that ethics does indeed play a fundamental role in decision-making. So, I'd like to emphasize that critical thinking isn't a separate entity, but it's rather a tool that aids in ethical considerations. Critical thinking involves analyzing, questioning, evaluating ethical implications, enabling individuals to make more informed and ethically sound decisions.
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Thank you for finally acknowledging that critical thinking may be one factor.
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Would you not say that over the last three years, we've seen the biggest Milgram experiments this world has ever seen? I mean, it's what we can get people to do if we do not hold them accountable. If we turn around and say, don't worry about it, we've got it sorted, we've got your back. And then what do we see? We see morals disappearing from pharmaceutical, from medical, from political, from everything.
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Oh, yeah, the Milgram experiment. Is this your first time looking at it? It's really cool.
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Thank you for that question, Blass. No, this is not my first time visiting it. It's actually my 55th time revisiting it. I thought it might need to be pointed out for those of us who don't know anything about it. Still waiting on Joy Rue to enlighten us with his answer on what the Milgram Experiment revealed.
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That's funny, you look at the stats and it says that 71% of the people that voted are apparently critical thinkers or think themselves to be such.
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I find it hard to see what relevancy this Milgram experiment actually is. In today's system now, if you look at the 20% that didn't press that term and disagreed with what they was asked, they had nothing to lose out of that, nothing to lose as such. Where would that 20% would have still been 20% if they were told you're going to lose your license, your ability to do any work in a
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So didn't everyone fail that experiment by taking part in it? Whether it was right at the beginning where people were just saying, out, or right at the end while they were screaming, they still failed by inflicting the pain, knowing that that's what they were going to do. So there was no passage, there was no failures, there were all failures, because they took part in doing what they were doing.
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