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No what he's doing is he's showing you that it takes to both genders male and female to prevent this type of harassment of women because men in Islam they're supposed to look away you know when they see a woman that's not covered properly they're supposed to avert their eyes so what he's saying is that both genders have a responsibility a role to play
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He didn't say anything about the men, he was saying that it's the woman's fault even if she's covered from head to toe she's still at fault. But what is actually at fault here is the heart of man. The heart of man is wicked and it's filled with lust and all sorts of uncleanness. What can clean up that heart? It's not working. The five pillars is clean, not working. The only thing that can help is Jesus.
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Well, that's what you're assuming, but the shaykh didn't bring up religion. He was just giving like a practical reason and answer for why men do what they do. And like, he is right, like the opposite does not usually happen, like even over here, so yeah, religion doesn't have anything to do with this, man. Because the real religious answer is just, you know, be more of a Muslim.
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I mean, Aleph, why do you act like Muslims don't believe in Jesus? Like, we believe in Jesus, so what are you talking about, my brother? What are you talking about? Like, only through Jesus Christ alone, like, I mean, we believe in Jesus. He's the Messiah. What do you mean, man, when you say that? Why do you act like Muslims are so different from what you are? Is it because you worship Jesus? Is that what this is about, or what? Because I'm confused. The way you are.
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Listen, if you deny that Jesus Christ was crucified, and you deny that he's the son of God, you do not believe in Jesus. We believe in Jesus exactly how he revealed himself. You do not really believe in Jesus, you believe in your own version of Jesus. That is not Jesus. At all.
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I mean if that's if that's the reason because you want to see him crucified so heart wholeheartedly you just in your blood you just want to see him crucified so badly because in islam god loves jesus so much that he saved him from being tortured that is what we believe and if you don't want to believe that that's fine but i see i see what this but
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Hey sis, you're wasting your time talking to Aleph. Aleph doesn't realize it, but he is one of those whom Jesus said that he would say, get away from me for I never knew you. Because in those verses, these people do things in Jesus' name. And these people believe in lawlessness. And these are the people that Jesus said he'll say he never knew. Aleph is a fool.
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I mean, you're telling on yourself, Alif, really. You know, I don't want to start like a war here in these comment sections, but I really want you to review what you said, and it's not going to take that much of an effort to see where the problem is in what you said.
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Oh, well, really, brother truth, what this stemmed from was me posting a video of showing that hajj and hajj from the Hebrew language are the same thing, means to go around in circles, and hajj is what they do, they go around in circles, and then the Jews, they wrap this box around their arm, which is the Kaaba, and the guy in the video, who was a Jewish guy, said that Moses, Jethro, and Aaron were all in Mecca, and that's where this stemmed from. Alif wants to show that Islam is so different from any other religion, that's what it is.
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So you really love the idea that Jesus was crucified is what you're saying to me. That's that, that's what this stems from is the fact that they didn't get to crucify Jesus that you love so much that you just want to see him crucified. And this is why you think that Muslims are so different. Well, my brother, if that's, if that's the reason, then, okay, yeah, we're different because.
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The reason why I talk to Aleph is I see potential for him to actually love Jesus with his whole heart and not play the blame game and push all of his sins onto Jesus. Because not only is that not taking accountability for your own sins, but what kind of justice would that be for someone like Jesus?
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I don't know about potential. I mean, if he's persistently and consistently showing you through these posts that this is how he feels about Islam, then I think that's enough for you to just know that there's not much potential. I mean, he simply just has a skewed perspective. But this is the issue with, you know, learning Islam via the internet. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem.
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You want me to just leave him to think ignorantly about Islam and not be educated on it? I can't do that, my brother. I have to... When I see something is incorrect, I have to correct it. Because that ideology is incorrect about Islam. He doesn't know the truth about Islam. All he learns is from whatever he researches on the internet. So, I know the answer. And I know that's not the right answer, so I want to tell him. I don't know, I guess I love people way too much, huh? That's my problem.
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No, you're right, I totally get it. It's just, what you're doing, you're doing a good thing. I'm just saying, how effective is it in the long run? And like, how well is he receiving what you're saying? You know? I mean, unless we were talking like on a panel, I'd say, yeah, it might go through. Probably not on here. Um, yeah, like, Aleph, if you're listening to this bro, we should be talking on like a panel, not on here. I think all of us are done.
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You see, you guys don't know who Jesus is. You don't know who Jesus is and you don't know why he was sent. Because your reply doesn't even make any sense at all. Jesus literally came to be the ultimate sacrifice to cover sins. This is what the Abrahamic faith is even about, which is why you Muslims are not a true Abrahamic faith. Because God, the God of Israel, has always required a sacrifice for sin. That is why he sent his son, to cover the sins of all, of anyone.
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To truly love Jesus Christ isn't just to proclaim you love Jesus. It's to believe in why he came what his message was why he was sent and to Understand that he is the son of God and you believe in that that's truly loving Christ. You Muslims don't love Christ You don't believe in his divinity You're an enemy to him
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Wow, that is so interesting that you say that we're the enemies to Christ because Christ himself said it was people like you that he would deny. He said, many will come to the door and knock and I'll say, go away for I never knew you. And they'll say, well, didn't we do this in thy name, that in thy name, three times in thy name. There's only one group of people that does things in Jesus name and that's you. And he says, get away from me, you workers of iniquity, lawlessness, and y'all say the laws died with Jesus.
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