Yeah, no, I've definitely heard stories like even in my personal life of people's children doing some of the most What we consider horrendous acts or things but yet they still support their children and love their children like nothing ever happened So I definitely think that's true.

I wonder if there's a slight element of I have to continue to love my children because that's what I'm supposed to do But also if I admit that they're terrible I have to take an element of responsibility for that being their parent I don't know just thoughts

No, I think that's a great follow-up because I'm a mother myself and I feel like yeah that the older your children get especially like whatever they do in the world like reflects you as a parent and people are going to be looking at you like so what did you drop the ball like what went wrong

And that's obviously coming from a perspective of like if you're like you said if your child is not doing the greatest out there You know it just it just you have to take some sort of level of accountability and responsibility as the person that cultivated this human

Hmm, that's an interesting perspective. I could totally see that because yeah, you know, like you said, we as humans, we put conditions and parameters on everything and if you step outside of those and it's like, okay, now I have to reevaluate if I love you still or-

and what I might think of you moving forward and if I have the capacity to continue with that love because of if you've done something that Like I said, you have now stepped out of those confines of what my conditions are with loving you if that makes sense.

Right, see this is a good subject. I can go further into this. I think this will be a good topic to discuss on the sister collective.

I think that is beautiful and wonderful, especially as a mother myself. I definitely will say that is that's probably I will say the second place between My my mother me having unconditional love for my mom and now my children And yeah, that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good

Those are two prime examples for me is experiencing unconditional love and having it, sending it somewhere between my children and my mom. So I definitely agree.

Myself I'm now just learning how to have a peaceful relationship with my mom so That's a journey, but I'm here for you

Wow, I want to say hats off to you for even, you know, trying to get to a good, you know, to be in a good space with your mom because I know that it's a little more challenging, especially as an adult because we have our own thought processes.

You know, because as adults, we're more set in our ideologies and the way we think. So I think that's great that you and your mom are striving to have a better relationship. I think that's really important, especially if you do have children.

To be honest, for me it's about forgiveness and compromising. Because I have one of those moms who completely forgets that it happened.

You know, like, does some foul shit and then forgets it and then just says it doesn't happen so completely invalidate your feelings and everything so yeah it's a journey.

Ah, okay. Yeah, I know what you mean. Um, me per se, personally, I've always had a really good relationship with my mom for the most part. It wasn't until I got older and it was more of an issue with like boundaries, but I remember, um...

I can just recall friends growing up that, like you said, would have parents do some of the foulest shit and then act like either because they're their parent or just in general act like it didn't happen or they're just supposed to sweep it under the rug and not realize it.

And not realizing that it you know it really affected their relationship And I think it has something to do with like I'm not sure how old you are And I'm not gonna ask you that but if I can presume it has something to do with that generation before us Um, yeah

Oh my gosh, I totally forgot about pets and I've had two dogs Rest their little souls. I don't have them anymore. I had to rehome them But anyways in like that was another experience of unconditional love for me like

Wow, I feel so bad. Like you really just, you say that like it resonates and it just um, ran my mind at me because I've actually been missing one of my dogs lately. I told my husband and she really did give me a lot of unconditional love man.

Yeah, I feel like pets are genuinely the only way to see how unconditional love works, and I feel like with humans we just don't operate like that, so the only unconditional love we do feel is between our pets because they're there for us no matter what.

Man, seriously, you're saying a word right now. Seriously, I feel like, um, you know, because pets, like, when they say, uh, dogs are a man's best friend, I just feel like it's the sense of loyalty that they give off. Like, literally, you can't tell them shit. Like, they love their-

Like, they will love their owners, or you per se, to the depths of their soul. And yeah, that definitely, like I said, pets will definitely give you unconditional love, no doubt about it.

I also agree with what you mentioned too about, I just replied this earlier to a different response, but about humans having confines and parameters and conditions to what like we feel like we will love you until X, Y, and Z. I think that's important.

Yeah, you know, I just think there are so many things going on in the world and everybody's lonely Everybody needs help with something like everyone's going through something. So I feel like we look out to each other for that help There's no one that we really have that unconditional love

And with that being said, I think never finding that unconditional love between another human is not a bad thing. Like we all have something going on, but just finding that right type of love where you both are helping each other is always good.

I definitely agree with that. I think, you know, as humans we, especially this day and age, there's a lot of distractions, especially with technology, the internet, like it's just like it's a faster paced world. So I think people...

Like I feel like people, that's also a reason why people can't fully unconditionally love each other if that makes sense. Like I said, unless you're in certain confines of like being a parent or kids or pets, like yeah.

I definitely agree with it being rare to come across or find someone that is not within those parameters of your life of parent or child that loves you unconditionally. I definitely agree with that.

Yes, a couple people have also shared that same sentiment, you know, and I've responded with, you know, I feel like we only can, in our human capacity, can do so much when it comes to that. I definitely think there's truth to that as well.

The Impostors of Love. I actually like what you just said right there. The Impostors of Love. You should elaborate more on that.

Oh, that sounds like my mom. She's very, um, I feel like she kind of lives life, like, curiously through me and my sister a little bit, but just because there's certain things she didn't accomplish, so when she sees us accomplish certain things, I think that really makes her happy.

And so yeah, it's um, yeah, I get that too. Like, your parents definitely, that's usually the first and mainly only source of unconditional love for a lot of people that they experience.