There's whooping your kids, and then there's just giving your kid a pop. If you give your kid like a little pop on the hand, like, ah, nope, don't do that, you know, smack him, that's, that ain't nothing. But there's actual whooping kids, because I got whoopings, like, smacked, like it's, it was abuse. It was abuse, and we don't have to do that anymore. That's not the kind of people that we are.