So this is my understanding. The way the mind is organized, we have the ego and then we have our unconscious mind. And the unconscious mind and how it interacts with reality is more prone to the identification of spirituality. Where how our ego interacts with reality, more linear, more sequential, that's going to be more scientific. And so I don't think that's, I think they're kind of in two different realms where maybe spirituality is more long term, science is more temporal.