Dreamy girl, I am a size nine. I, you know what? And it depends on the make of the shoes too at the same time, because I went to the store last weekend and I was able to get a eight. I think that was eight and a half or something like that. I think that was eight, eight and a half. I gotta go look at the dang old shoe again. But some shoes it's like, you have to get like a 10 or 11.