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I'm not a fan of hard labor because I see that being a slippery slope for corporate exploitation, right, like privatized prisons, then them wanting to get the prison rate up because they're making money off of prisoners now, so you could see how they would incorporate low-level drug crimes as jailable offenses because they can make money off of the prison labor pool, so I don't trust corporations.

Yeah, that makes sense. I just don't see any real long-term solutions to dealing with criminals, I guess. People who don't play by the rules of society.

That's funny. Yep. Well, even if I do want to fast forward, I don't want somebody else taking me out

right that's the that's the dilemma one of the dilemmas right first of all like if killings wrong why is it right for the state to do it but then like you said wrongfully convicted people getting put to death that's fucked up

I actually think it's letting a violent criminal off easy, um, by killing them, you know, I think making them rot in jail for the rest of their life would be better punishment, but to each their own. We each have our own opinions.

I see your point, alright, like so murder and rape and crimes like that, but does it really depend on the crime? Because if you want to go at it from like a moral, philosophical point of view, like if killing's wrong, how could it be right for the state to do it? You know, so that's kind of the angle I was coming with, but to each their own.

I agree, if killing is wrong, then how can it be okay for the state to do it?

Don't you think having to spend your whole life in prison would be worse punishment than being executed and taken out of your misery? And then from a moral standpoint, my position is that if killing's wrong, it's wrong. So how could it be okay for the state to do it, right?