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Now we do know that temptation and tested are interchangeable in the scriptures, in the word of the Bible, right? So while Christ was tested, He was not tempted with things of the flesh, because He was born of a virgin, He was holy. He was not born of corrupt seed, we were. There's a difference between Christ and us, and we can only be like Him when we're in Him, that is our salvation. Repent of your legalism!
2nd John 1, 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
So, Persona, imagine this, right, BX wants to say that Christ was not tempted in the flesh. Meanwhile, what was the first temptation in the wilderness? And he hungered, then Satan came and said to him, if you are the Son of God, come on that this stone will become bread. Is that not a temptation of the flesh?
That's a claim that you have yet to prove, my friend. You could repeat it over and over again and ignore the answer but it's definitely, anybody who has understanding listens to this dialogue and they recognize why doesn't this guy recognize that he's been answered over and over again? Well, that's just a demonstration that he just refuses what the Bible is saying because my answers are strictly biblical.
Aleph, are you coming late to the party? How many times must I repeat the same thing? He was tempted in the flesh. The flesh has the temptations of pain, of sleep deprivation, of sadness, of hunger, okay? This is the commonality that we have with Christ. He was tempted, right? But with moral things, he was too holy to fall for the sins that we fall every single day. You have to see the distinction. Can you possibly?
I meant to say as a man, he felt pain, he felt suffering, hunger, sleep deprivation. Those things that are common to the fallen flesh. That's what I'm talking about. But you need to make the distinction of the morality with the physicality. There's a distinction there. Demonstrate that Christ was tempted and tested with morality in him about to fall. You cannot show that in the text.
You prove yourself to have issues of listening skills. I will repeat myself. The Lord was physical as we are, but he was born of a virgin, not born of corruptible seed. This is what the Bible teaches. Don't you believe what the Bible teaches? And so he was not going to be tempted, okay, to steal because he was the one who gave us the law to begin with, okay? He wasn't going to be...
yeah this is 100% the issue, umm, see he didn't say that The Bible says that Christ didn't come in the same flesh as us In John Chapter 1 the Word became Flesh The word, which is his divine origin, becoming flesh, coming into human existence ok you didn't come through the word, you came through the dust That's why your flesh is weak Your flesh is no where to be compared to Christ
So knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things as silver or gold and from your futile conduct, inherited from your forefathers but with precious blood as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. That's 1 Peter 119-19. You're welcome.
Wow, are you rejecting what you basically are reading? I just read it to you, 1st Peter, 118 through 19. He was the seed promised from Abraham. His blood is incorruptible. Do you think that his seed is corruptible or incorruptible? Are you stooping down deeper into the recesses of ignorance? It sure seems like it.
So are you purposely not reading further down to where it talks about corruptible seed and incorruptible seed and all that? Or are you just missing it?
So when you look at 1 Peter 1 and 22, it's very clear what the exaltation is, right? So brothers love each other out of a pure heart, having been born again. And he's describing the nature of being born again because it's not after anything that's corruptible because that's the flesh. Incorruptible is the spirit, right? This scripture is not supposed to be used to say, oh, look, Christ is born of a different nature. When you're walking in the spirit, you are walking after the incorruptible.
Now, if you're not making your arguments, you have to demonstrate that Christ suffered with moral temptations and testings. You have to show that he almost fell to morality, to the point of almost sinning. You're not going to find that in the text. You can blah, blah, blah, blah, blah a whole lot, but you're not going to find that. He was an incorruptible seed, including his blood. That's what the passage is saying.
You cannot point to the Garden of Gethsemane, because we recognize that at the cross there was the separation between Christ, the second person of the Trinity, and the first person of the Trinity, the Father. And that's why he said, not as my will. But that's what he's been saying throughout his whole three and a half year ministry. Not my will, but your will. Always, he came to do his Father's will. Okay? So, that's what it was about. He didn't want to separate.