So when it comes to like getting media, like consuming media, do you like podcasts or audiobooks? Because I feel like this day and age, like people reading newspapers or reading a physical book has not exactly faded. But the opportunity to hear it versus reading has been much more popular. And I feel like whenever you have a podcast or an audiobook, it's just way easier to listen whether you're driving or going to the gym or taking a walk versus having something physical in your hand. So yeah, I'm just curious if you like it or not.